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Roundstart

TLDR

Use f.S or 2D to beat all the ground options (if one doesn't the other does).

Elphelt Buttons notes:

Elphelt's f.S

Doesn't punish backdash, but it's still a win since we get free space for our neutral game.

Wins

  • 6P, only wins if Elphelt uses a followup (f.S > 5H or f.S > Bridal).

  • 2K wins but non-counterhit, can't get anything from it.

  • Everything except the listed under.

Trades
  • 5K
Loses
  • 6P if Elp didn't chain a followup.
  • H DP.
  • Leo's S DP (trades), yet if Leo got hit standing instead of airborne, Leo scores advantage due the KD. If Elp delays the f.S 4-5 frames, she can get a CH.
Elphelt's 2D

Used to cover instances that Elp f.S doesn't win.

Relevant Wins
  • 5K, meanwhile Elp f.S trades.
  • Allows punishing Leo's 2K unlike with Elp f.S
  • Whiffs against Leo's S DP.
  • 1/2 Frames delayed 2D whiffs against Leo's H DP, otherwise clashes.
Trades

N/A

Loses
  • f.S (2D loses and get poked, Leo can only follow it up by 214S.)
  • 2D (loses to Elp f.S)
Irrelevant whiffs/clashes

Whiff/clashes and doesn't allow for punish or anything relevant.

  • 6P (whiffs, loses to Elp f.S)
  • 2H (clash, loses to Elp f.S)
  • H DP (clash)
  • H DP (whiff, Elp 2D is delayed for 1-2 frames)
  • 2S (clash, loses to Elp f.S)
  • 2D (whiffs, still can be blocked, loses to Elp f.S)

Leo's 6P

Something like f.S > Bridal or f.S > 5H works.

2D whiffs.

Leo's 6K

Loses to f.S and 2D, didn't bother about anything else.

Leo's 5K

f.S/2S trades

5H loses.

6H hits too late, doesn't get a CH, cancel into whatever but not bridal.

6P hits too late, can be blocked.

2D wins.

delayed 2k wins, aka ~ 2k>f.S>etc

delayed 2d wins, aka ~ 2D > bridal / shotgun / berry

Leo's f.S

f.S wins.

2D loses and get poked, Leo can only follow it up by 214S.

5P loses.

5H loses.

6H loses.

on IB can do 5H, but if Leo does f.S > 5H ur fucked.

6P "hits" as long doesn't go into stance, also hits if Leo does f.S > 5H.

Leo's 2H

6H Clashes, if Leo delays the 2H you get murdered, so discard this option.

2H loses.

f.S wins/gets CH.

2D clashes.

1 frame delayed Elp f.S murders you.

3-4 frame delayed Elp f.S scores a CH.

Leo's delayed 2H

Reminder, Elp 6H murders you. Don't.

Leo's 2K

2D gets a CH, slightly delayed (1/2 frames) 2D also gets a CH, further delay will whiff, still safe tho.

f.S wins, no CH, can't get anything out of it due to distance. I dont like the idea of pulling shotgun against leo in neutral anyway.

Leo's 2S

2D clashes.

5K clashes.

f.S wins with a CH.

Leo's 6H

f.S/2S gets CH.

Delayed 2D gets CH.

6H get CH.

6P gets CH.

2H gets CH.

substantially delayed 5K gets CH.

Leo's 2D

f.S/2S wins.

2K/5K/2P/5P/2D/6H/5H/Bridal loses.

Leo's S DP

f.S, yet if Leo got hit standing instead of airborne, Leo scores advantage due the KD.

If Elp delays the f.S 4-5 frames, she can win with an airborne CH.

2D Whiffs.

2S loses.

6H Trades.

5H/Bridal loses.

Bridal also whiffs (does it even matter??).

Leo's H DP

2S/f.S/5H/6H/Bridal loses.

2D clashes.

1/2 frames delayed 2D wiffs.

Leo's Erst

Loses to everything except 6H/6P/Bridal?.

Leo's Zweit

Loses to everything except 6H?/6P/Bridal?

Leo's TK Siegesparade

f.S/5H/6H/6P wins

Other might whiff.

Leo's Backdash

Delayed 5H hits bd.

6H hits bd.

Bridal hits bd.